Dropdown reference - v6 vs. v7

weblike

Hi all,

In v6 was a good thing when the user could type and expand dropdown in same time.

In v7 :

if I select "Fetch all records at once" - the user see the dropdown list, but cannot type anything.

Support, can you bring this feature back from v6? please, please, pretty please 🙂...

thx,

BenHayat

George try this:

1) Select "Fetch records dynamically as user types" First
2) Select "Find records that start with entered value"
3) Now, select "Fetch all records at once"

weblike

Hi Ben,

thx for reply.

I know this scenario from v6, where it works.
but, in v7 this is not working, the user cannot type anything, just expand the dropdown list.. Tried with bootstrap and flat themes.

thx again,

weblike

The above image is from v7...

BenHayat

weblike wrote
The above image is from v7...

But it should be like this.

Look at my previous STEP 2 carefully.

BenHayat

George, I tested it with my setup as shown and works.

weblike

Hi ben,

I will make a video, because I guess we speak other things/languages 🙂...

be right back with email to you..

thx.

weblike

BenHayat wrote
weblike wrote
The above image is from v7...

But it should be like this.

Look at my previous STEP 2 carefully.

In v6, both works "start with entered value" & "contain entered value"

I prefer "contain ....." because searches the entire string not only the start.

cheers.

BenHayat

weblike wrote
BenHayat wrote
weblike wrote
The above image is from v7...

But it should be like this.

Look at my previous STEP 2 carefully.

In v6, both works "start with entered value" & "contain entered value"

I prefer "contain ....." because searches the entire string not only the start.

cheers.

I agree George. Please report it to Support, and include the video.

weblike

Reported to Vlad.
thx ben,

baskosi

I guess it's due to the Kendo UI widget working differently.

The new widget doesn't show the edit field for "Fetch all records at once" but you can start typing and it will find records that start with entered letters. It even does it as case-insensitive search (this wasn't the case in 6.0).

The new widget is a bit annoying for the "Fetch records dynamically as user types". In this case you have to open the drop-down to start searching (mouse or Alt+ArrowDown). I would prefer to start a search without this step. I've put the instructions for Alt+ArrowDown in the 'Undefined' text for the field's Presentation settings.

aware_support

I don't see what the problem is. baskosi is right - there is a small difference between the versions in that 7.0 opens a small popup window, whereas 6.0 allows typing inside the drop down itself. The rest is the same.

weblike

I found this on telerik site. This is what I'm talking about.

http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/dropdownlist/serverfiltering

This the feature that's is present in v6 and would be great to bring back in v7. My customers asks me everyday about it.

Thank you,

baskosi

I tried to find this functionality in one of the official sample apps but couldn't find it. They all use Fetch all records at once.

However I use the requested functionality in my own app. I configure it as:

Display as: Drop down
Fetch records dynamically as user types, Find records that contain entered value

weblike

baskosi wrote
I tried to find this functionality in one of the official sample apps but couldn't find it. They all use Fetch all records at once.

However I use the requested functionality in my own app. I configure it as:

Display as: Drop down

Fetch records dynamically as user types, Find records that contain entered value

Attention: Is not like in above telerik link. In that link you have both "fetch all records at once" & "fetch records dynamically..."

aware_support

This has been implemented in build 2148

baskosi

I installed build 2148.

When looking for what was changed I realised that clicking ESC while dropdown is open selects the current record. It shouldn't.

Steps:

select a value in a dropdown
open dropdown again and search for another value
press ESC
dropdown closes but selects the value which was shown in it
value for the dropdown changes even if the ESC was used to close the dropdown
UI rules trigger (in my case changing values in other fields)

Values are not saved to the BO but when a user clicks Close, he is asked whether to save changes. They (me included) automatically click to save the changes.

ESC works in Kendo UI dropdown demo (http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/dropdownlist/serverfiltering):

Chai is selected as a dropdown value
Open dropdown with a mouse
Type Chef
Press ESC
Original value (Chai) is kept as a value for the dropdown

This is crazy:

Click outside the dropdown
Value of the dropdown is changed to Chef

Kendo UI doesn't work after all.

crisg0112

baskosi wrote
I installed build 2148.

When looking for what was changed I realised that clicking ESC while dropdown is open selects the current record. It shouldn't.

Steps:

select a value in a dropdown

open dropdown again and search for another value

press ESC

dropdown closes but selects the value which was shown in it

value for the dropdown changes even if the ESC was used to close the dropdown

UI rules trigger (in my case changing values in other fields)

Values are not saved to the BO but when a user clicks Close, he is asked whether to save changes. They (me included) automatically click to save the changes.

ESC works in Kendo UI dropdown demo (http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/dropdownlist/serverfiltering):

Chai is selected as a dropdown value

Open dropdown with a mouse

Type Chef

Press ESC

Original value (Chai) is kept as a value for the dropdown

This is crazy:

Click outside the dropdown

Value of the dropdown is changed to Chef

Kendo UI doesn't work after all.

I agree, this behaviour is happening.

Maybe we are using the wrong Kendo UI widget?? Maybe this is better??
http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/combobox/index

pureist

"Maybe we are using the wrong Kendo UI widget?? Maybe this is better??
http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/combobox/index"
.
No. in that one the user has to overtype/delete an existing entry just to type new text to search by. stupid.
.
the following version offers the best user experience :
http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/dropdownlist/serverfiltering
.
BUT, as baskosi said:
"This is crazy:

Click outside the dropdown
Value of the dropdown is changed to Chef
Kendo UI doesn't work after all."
.
and what's more, clicking outside the dropdown when you've typed some text isn't the only action which triggers the value changing without it actually having been selected...
.
EVEN if you press Esc to remove the risk of a selection being made (because you had typed in some text), if you then click outside the dropdown, the value STILL changes.
.
hilarious! whoever did the QC at Kendo and approved that being released to the world deserves to be 'released' from their position

crisg0112

pureist wrote
"Maybe we are using the wrong Kendo UI widget?? Maybe this is better??
http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/combobox/index"
.
No. in that one the user has to overtype/delete an existing entry just to type new text to search by. stupid.
.
the following version offers the best user experience :
http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/dropdownlist/serverfiltering
.
BUT, as baskosi said:
"This is crazy:

Click outside the dropdown

Value of the dropdown is changed to Chef
Kendo UI doesn't work after all."
.
and what's more, clicking outside the dropdown when you've typed some text isn't the only action which triggers the value changing without it actually having been selected...
.
EVEN if you press Esc to remove the risk of a selection being made (because you had typed in some text), if you then click outside the dropdown, the value STILL changes.
.
hilarious! whoever did the QC at Kendo and approved that being released to the world deserves to be 'released' from their position

Hi pureist,

first off, isn't the combobox the same behaviour as we had in V6? where we could type on the field itself and then it does an incremental search?

secondly, i don't appreciate you saying 'stupid' (either as a reference to the combobox widget or to me personally)!

I don't think name-calling is helpful in the forum!