How do you close a Form after DELETE Action?

BenHayat

I have a form, if I put a Menu Operation that uses Aware's builtin "Delete Object", then the form closes properly and returns to previous calling program.

However, I need to use "Delete" Action in a process, because after Delete, I need to perform some house cleaning. But If I use "Delete" Action in a process, the Form does NOT get closed and I get error that "the record may have been deleted". Which the error makes sense, since the form is trying to re-display after process and there is no record.

So, How do I tell Aware to close the form in the process? I can't find any "Close" Action.

Thanks!

BenHayat

Here is the error;

RLJB

Agreed! Always diverted the same problem. Our (bad) work around it's to display a message "the record has now been deleted, please close the tab"

A close tab rule would be great.

mrbdrm

You can't control forms display from a process

how about making the process save the form before starting then tick the "close after save" check box

mrbdrm

or from the final step in the process show the previous query or form. 🙂

BenHayat

mrbdrm wrote
or from the final step in the process show the previous query or form. 🙂

None of the above!

BenHayat

RLJB wrote
Agreed! Always diverted the same problem. Our (bad) work around it's to display a message "the record has now been deleted, please close the tab"
A close tab rule would be great.

For the time being , I have to do this, but looks unprofessional.

@SUPPORT;
Could you please provide a "Close" Action? Or build it right into "Delete" Action?
Thanks!

yuri.rj

Can't you display something after the delete?
Like a query or something... Just to clean the form and move to somewhere else?

Sorry if it can't be done... It's just something that I thought to be "less worst" then the message option

BenHayat

yuri.rj wrote
Can't you display something after the delete?
Like a query or something... Just to clean the form and move to somewhere else?

Sorry if it can't be done... It's just something that I thought to be "less worst" then the message option

When you open a form in "Edit" mode as a tab, and you have a "Delete Object" (built in delete function in Aware), as a menu operation and user clicks on it, Aware automatically closes the form/tab.
We need same functionality (as user is used to it) with "Delete" action in a process. Very simple request!
No need for query or anything else.

BobK

after Delete, I need to perform some house cleaning.

Would it be possible to put your house cleaning in the BO's "Rules (when object is deleted)". You could then use the built in delete menu operation and the house cleaning would automatically execute.

BenHayat

BobK wrote
after Delete, I need to perform some house cleaning.

Would it be possible to put your house cleaning in the BO's "Rules (when object is deleted)". You could then use the built in delete menu operation and the house cleaning would automatically execute.

Very nice idea Bob (as usual), Thanks! Two questions:

1) I have to create a rule in the BO's rule that calls the "Housekeeping" Process. How can I check that the Bo is being deleted to call this Process?

2) Does "DELETE" cause the BO rules to get activated? I thought it was only ADD & UPDATE that activated "Rule Processing".

BenHayat

Bob, I may have got my answer to Q1. "Was Removed" seems to be able to give me that condition. Is that correct? or there is a better way?

BenHayat

BenHayat wrote
Bob, I may have got my answer to Q1. "Was Removed" seems to be able to give me that condition. Is that correct? or there is a better way?

Unfortunately, the expression "WAS REMOVED FROM" only works when you remove a BO from a list of a Parent BO, and not by itself. I wish there was "WAS REMOVED" flag I could use. Back to my questions again. 🙂

BenHayat

I tried to use the prefix "Removed" and "Was Changed" to see if I can capture the removal event by Aware to call the process, but it didn't call the process "Clean_Session_Template"

If RemovedSession_Template WAS CHANGED Then Clean_Session_Template

So, I don't know when to call this from BO Rule

BenHayat

Basically, when a BO gets deleted, Rules don't get evaluated. [That's what it seems like].

hpl123

Ben,
Not sure the cleanup approach is ideal. What if you need to delete the instance from someplace else i.e. where you don´t need the cleanup process to be executed. If you add a rule to the DELETION RULES (see screenshot), the rule is executed when an instance of the BO is deleted and from there you could just place the process name as the action. You could also have a flag possibly on the instance that says something like "Cleanup" and if that flag is a "Yes", executed the deletion rule (i.e. in the deletion rule have "If Bo.Cleanup="Yes" Then CleanUpProcess). Not sure / confident this entire solution will work though.

Support, getting a dedicated "Close" action to close forms and even things like tabs, queries etc. would really be ideal and is very much needed. I have many scenarios where I need something like that. Hoep this can be implemented. Thanks

BenHayat

I can confirm that when a BO is DELETED, rules do NOT get evaluated. I just did several tests and no actions takes place when a BO is removed. Too bad!

hpl123

BenHayat wrote
I can confirm that when a BO is DELETED, rules do NOT get evaluated. I just did several tests and no actions takes place when a BO is removed. Too bad!

Did you try a DELETION RULE (see comments above) and not a standard BO rule? I use deletion rules all the time and definitely work.

BenHayat

hpl123 wrote
BenHayat wrote
I can confirm that when a BO is DELETED, rules do NOT get evaluated. I just did several tests and no actions takes place when a BO is removed. Too bad!

Did you try a DELETION RULE (see comments above) and not a standard BO rule? I use deletion rules all the time and definitely work.

Hi Henrik;
Thank you firstly... I'm testing the DELETE rule, but doesn't seem to execute the process. I'm testing to confirm. Let you know in a few...

BenHayat

hpl123 wrote
BenHayat wrote
I can confirm that when a BO is DELETED, rules do NOT get evaluated. I just did several tests and no actions takes place when a BO is removed. Too bad!

Did you try a DELETION RULE (see comments above) and not a standard BO rule? I use deletion rules all the time and definitely work.

Something very strange happens:
IF I call that process from DELETE rule,
a) The Object doesn't get deleted
b) The form doesn't get closed

However, the process did get executed, but no Object was deleted.