horizontal scroll bars in a form

nlarson

any way to disable them? 99.995% of the time they show up because Ext does such a %$%#$ job of handling sizing and it's scrolling the areas drawn behind the vertical scroll bar., the other .005% is for people running 800x600... Which I do not support so I would be happy to just disable them completely.

aware_support

Specify explicit height for your form

nlarson

i always do but is a user expanse collapsed sections beyond the specified height a vertical scroll pops up, which then causes a horizontal scroll to also pop.

aware_support

If your form is not a pop-up form, i.e. if it's not displayed by a process, then DO NOT specify the explicit height, in which case there should be no scrollbars after expansion of collapsed sections. If your form IS a pop-up form, there is no solution...

nlarson

It's not a pop up...

A major pet peeve of mine is making users hunt for action buttons. I believe that in a well developed Used experience it is simply not acceptable in force users to scroll and hunt for primary action button scrolling. Since Aware does not have a context toolbar anchored above /at top of the form the only way to allow users to not hunt for the save button is to set my form heights to attempt to anchor the Save button near the bottom of a 768h or 1050h screen. That leaves a rather narrow height to work content into without triggering scrollbars. I have worked around the scrollbars by making sections which start collapsed. However if a user expands a collapsed sections beyond the specified height, then a vertical scroll pops up, which further causes a horizontal scroll to cover the area now masked by the vertical scroll bar.

Since the user can close the tab in my app the close button is unnecessary, and I would happily eliminate the save button (forceing the user to accept a save when tab was closed) but we did that in my CRM system and users hated it. The save button is like a pacifier for them.

So basically it’s one thing feeding another thing.

So back to the original question… I’m guessing I can’t force a disable?

aware_support

There is capability in Aware IM to put Save and Close buttons at the top of the form, so that users don't have to "hunt for them". Have you tried that?

nlarson

yes I tried that but

they still scroll away since the tool bar is not anchored so my fundamental issue is not solved. If the data you want to edit is at the bottom of a form your back to hunting around.
I could have both top and bottom but
a. they don't look the same as other buttons in the app
b. I don't like two buttons for 1 function, it's confusing to users
c. I can still create situations a where no save or close is on the screen