Difficult to read calculated/read only attributes

rolfb

Users complain about the read only attributes that are difficult to read - i have to agree that is acually a pain to see those attributes. is there a way to change the font, background, make it bold etc?

aware_support

It is possible to change the style in Firefox but not in IE. The best alternative is to display calculated attributes as tags in HTML cells: <<MyObject.MyAttribute>>

This has been asked before - please search the forum for a detailed reply.

ab042

Support: Is there someway to make this change in the THEME.

Suggesting that we create an HTML cell for every calculated attribute on every screen so that a user can read an attribute when using a standard function seems a little harsh? Do you have any other suggestions?

aware_support

I agree that it's a bit harsh, but like I said at the moment the change in the CSS style will only work in FF, not in IE. A change in a theme is a change in the CSS.

I guess in the future version we could optionally display calculated attributes as labels, but at the moment, the workaround I suggested is the best we can do. Unfortunately IE does not allow you to control the appearance of the read-only fields (FF does)

rocketman

Support, Any chance you could point us to that part of the CSS that deals with this attribute. I hate IE anyay and would be happy to use virtually any other browser

aware_support

Open the following file:

AwareIM/Tomcat/webapps/AwareIM/aware_ext/resources/css/blue.css

Locate the following lines:

/* Disabling on Mozilla and Safari is almost invisible - use our own */
.x-item-disabled { color:black;cursor:default;opacity:.8;-moz-opacity:.8;filter:alpha(opacity=80);
}

This is the css setting that controls opacity in FF and Safari. You can play with the settings of "opacity" and "alpha" until you find the settings you are happy with.

Don't forget to refresh the browser every time you make a change to this file.

nlarson

Before i apply your suggestion, is there any change in the status on this, or any idea if IE9 will support this? I too am having trouble reading calculated fields (I must be getting old 😮 ).

nlarson

IDEA:

User Shortcut form style for Calculated fields.

I just stumbled across that this morning and think it is exactly what most folks would want. This is a much better visual AND is cross browser compatible.

gust

aware_support wrote
Open the following file:

AwareIM/Tomcat/webapps/AwareIM/aware_ext/resources/css/blue.css

Locate the following lines:

/* Disabling on Mozilla and Safari is almost invisible - use our own */
.x-item-disabled { color:black;cursor:default;opacity:.8;-moz-opacity:.8;filter:alpha(opacity=80);
}

This is the css setting that controls opacity in FF and Safari. You can play with the settings of "opacity" and "alpha" until you find the settings you are happy with.

Don't forget to refresh the browser every time you make a change to this file.

Will this work in Opera or there are any other solution of changing opacity of Read only fields?

Really difficult to read.

ab042

Most anyone using protected attributes would vote this as a "Major" user interface problem and it has been a problem for an extended period of time.

Do you see anything coming down the road that will resolve the issue for all devices and all browsers? And if so, can you give us an idea of a time frame.

Thanks

aware_support

We'll see if we can do something about this in the next version...

ab042

Any luck with this, it is a major issue for us.

Thanks

aware_support

We'll do it in the next minor release

aware_support

We have implemented some changes in this area. Calculated attributes should now be displayed as normal attributes, but you shouldn't be able to change them. Please take a look at the experimental version and let us know if you are happy with the end result.

To get the experimental version please do the following:

Update to the latest Aware IM build (1830) if not done already
Download the file http://www.awareim.com/aware.js.bin (if the file loads as text save the text)
Rename the file to aware.js
Put the file in AwareIM/Tomcat/webapps/AwareIM/aware_ext directory overwriting the original (copy the original somewhere just in case)
Refresh your browser

aware_support

Correction: the latest build number is 1430, not 1830

RocketRod

I have tested with IE 8 and Safari on Build 1430 and see no change so maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Cheers Rod

aware_support

Sorry, for some reason there was an old file on the web site. Please re-download the file and try again (don't forget to refresh the browser)

ab042

On the new experimental version the protected attributes appear exactly the same as non protected attributes making it more confusing than ever to the end user.

Possible suggestions (I'm not sure they will work without viewing samples):

Suggest #1) Is it possible to make protected Bold & Grey in color?
Suggest #2) Is it possible to change the box color around the attribute (maybe red)?
Suggest #3) Regardless of what you do, Maybe a popup balloon if a protected attribute is clicked on that says "Field is protected, no change"

Anything that makes them different and readable is going to be a great help.

Thanks again

RocketRod

Excellent progress support. I can now see them!

However I agree with abo42 that it needs to be different in some way so users can distinguish which are which. The previous lightness was the difference but now that the readability has been improved there is no difference. Also pretending to be a user I backspaced within a calculated field and I crashed out! It only appears to be the backspace key. Trying to enter other keys appears to be ignored as it should be. IE8 tested. A little more tweaking and I think you will be there.

Cheers Rod

aware_support

We have implemented another change that makes calculated attributes paler. Please download the new version of the same file and perform the same steps as before. Don't forget to refresh the browser.

You can now also change the settings of the calculated fields. Each of them are assigned x-item-disabled CSS class and by changing values in this class you can change how they look. To change the CSS settings open the file AwareIM/Tomcat/webapps/AwareIM/aware_ext/resources/css/blue.css

and search for "x-item-disabled". You will locate the following lines:

.x-item-disabled {
color:black;cursor:default;opacity:.8;-moz-opacity:.8;filter:alpha(opacity=80);
}

You can change the color above and the opacity - smaller opacity makes them paler, for example:
.x-item-disabled {
color:black;cursor:default;opacity:.6;-moz-opacity:.8;filter:alpha(opacity=60);
}

or
.x-item-disabled {
color:gray;cursor:default;
}

Votes for the best looking settings are welcome. Once we know what most people want we'll make the changes permanent