FR: More thoughts on Config tool

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Re: FR: More thoughts on Config tool

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RentProperty wrote:3 Things That would probably be pretty easy to implement and that would help TREMENDOUSLY is:
That's just my 2 cents of easy productivity savers. :-)
Well said!
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Re: Focus on Aware's Core Competency

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mrbdrm wrote:
BenHayat wrote: In my app, after initial setup done on desktop browser, 80% of my app's daily use is via Mobile. Any time I demo my app to a prospect, their # 1 question/demand is that, they want to run it as an app (hybrid will do) and not in browser. It's funny, same user on the desktop wants the freedom of running on browser, but when it comes to Mobile, they don't want to run in browser. Second thing is that most apps people use, give them access to phones hardware/software services (like taking picture directly in the app or calling Barcode reader in the app or access to Geo location live), which only Phonegap provides at this point. Without phonegap implementation, I got nothing to sell no matter how pretty my screens are. That's the reality.
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Indeed.

There are certain fundamental things ... the BIG ROCKS ... that ONLY AwareSoft can address. Things like ... Mobile, Application Sever/Rule Engine performance, general config tool improvements, better REST API integration, etc.

While I do agree that some improvements to the UI builder would be nice ... with the addition of Bootstrap & Kendo UI in v7... anyone here can either learn or find someone to tweak the UI.

I don't have time to go into all of the reasons, but it will be nearly impossible (or at least massively unprofitable) to build/maintain a WYSIWYG tool that will build perfect UI's.

We have yet to see a production AwareIM application that is able to handle heavy usage. And Vlad has communicated that they don't have any customer or internal stats. I would like to see AwareIM put a real effort into load/performance testing of an application that they have deemed "optimized".

From my perspective ... this is the one thing that should possibly be ahead of mobile on the list. It won't matter if the screens are perfect and there is a beautiful mobile version if your app is puking.
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Re: FR: More thoughts on Config tool

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3 Things That would probably be pretty easy to implement and that would help TREMENDOUSLY is:

1) if Aware didn't throw away the formatting of the Rules when using Text Form. I hardly ever use the standard form to setup rules because it's much more difficult to see the whole rule. However when you use the Text Form and and have a long for instance when Doing a CREATE Object With A.Attr1=B.Attr1, A.Attr2=B.Attr2,A.Attr3=B.Attr3, etc etc. I usually add an enter after each line so it's easier to see the whole thing and to see what attributes you've done and which ones not. HOWEVER, Aware throws this formatting away, so when you go back to tweak, everything is in ONE LONG Unreadable line. So to find an attribute, you either have to Re-insert all the line breaks or you have to copy to another editor, do a find, and then copy back.

2)Related to the issue above... After the 3rd or forth Line Break... The Context assistant Don't Work anymore.

3) The ability to CTRL-Click to jump to any Query, Process, Form, Attribute, etc from where it is reference. So for instance you have a Rule that Calls a Query... Display MyQuery. While you are working on this rule in the process you quickly want to go to the query, so You Press CTRL and then Click on 'MyQuery' which then opens a new window that takes you directly to that Query. This is how most of the Java IDE's work and it helps TREMENDOUSLY in getting around the code fast and efficiently and reduce the time looking for things alot.

That's just my 2 cents of easy productivity savers.
These would indeed be VERY helpful!
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Re: FR: More thoughts on Config tool

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To the original list (before it was hijacked to tequila and phonegap :) ) please add:

1. ability to search for a process/query in the tree by Name of process/query

2. ability to double click (or right click) on a process name or query name and be taken directly to that query eg menu item on a form runs a process, rather than having to close menu window and the form and go search the tree just have a click through on the window to open the process

#2 there alone would save an hour a day
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Re: FR: More thoughts on Config tool

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RentProperty wrote:3 Things That would probably be pretty easy to implement and that would help TREMENDOUSLY is:

1) if Aware didn't throw away the formatting of the Rules when using Text Form. I hardly ever use the standard form to setup rules because it's much more difficult to see the whole rule. However when you use the Text Form and and have a long for instance when Doing a CREATE Object With A.Attr1=B.Attr1, A.Attr2=B.Attr2,A.Attr3=B.Attr3, etc etc. I usually add an enter after each line so it's easier to see the whole thing and to see what attributes you've done and which ones not. HOWEVER, Aware throws this formatting away, so when you go back to tweak, everything is in ONE LONG Unreadable line. So to find an attribute, you either have to Re-insert all the line breaks or you have to copy to another editor, do a find, and then copy back.

2)Related to the issue above... After the 3rd or forth Line Break... The Context assistant Don't Work anymore.

3) The ability to CTRL-Click to jump to any Query, Process, Form, Attribute, etc from where it is reference. So for instance you have a Rule that Calls a Query... Display MyQuery. While you are working on this rule in the process you quickly want to go to the query, so You Press CTRL and then Click on 'MyQuery' which then opens a new window that takes you directly to that Query. This is how most of the Java IDE's work and it helps TREMENDOUSLY in getting around the code fast and efficiently and reduce the time looking for things alot.

That's just my 2 cents of easy productivity savers. :-)
Sorry Hein - I just read yours and it's exactly what I want to, this makes a LOT of sense.
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